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Tali's comment on Mountain Meadow's Massacre

by Barbara Fallick last modified May 10, 2007 07:41 AM

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Posted by Tali Hall at May 04, 2007 01:06 PM
I found a church history book at devins parents house that was really old and it had a whole chapter on it. It was basicly what you said except it seemed a little more to me like the indians had planned it out and told brigham young and he told them to do what they want but that the church members were to stay out of it. Shortly after that he got the messanger from cedar city and president young told him (the messanger) the same thing, except that they were to leave the imigrant trains un harmed unless it was self defence. and when the messanger got to ceadar city delivered the Prophets message they screamed in agony "its too late!" It then says that the indians planned the attack and anniciated it but once it had begun a group of brethren joined in. mostly out of fear and anxiety, how ever those men were still wrong and were held responsible by the church for the rest of their days, and God would be their judge. I believe that the members of the church and the Indains and any others who took part in that are all equally guilty. And that it is the same as if say the trolly square shooter was a member of the church or any other murderer. The church is perfect, but the members are not, and each member makes his and her own decisions.My actions are not president Hinkleys fault. Those are my views.
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Don Fallick May 13, 2007 02:36 PM
What we tend to forget was that Utah was fighting a war against an invading power at the time. With no professional army, the Saints recruited militia from among everyone who owned a gun. On the frontier, in Indian territory, this included most men. Those who were recruited were placed under orders, like all other military people, and had to obey them. When the orders were given to massacre the travelers, the guys with the guns had to say to themselves, something like, "I don't like these orders, and I don't understand them, but I will obey my duly constituted leaders." In war, you can do nothing less, as the guy with the gun does not have the big picture, and can only have faith that the leaders know what they are doing. This is especially true in a church in which the leaders function by inspiration.

We may never know which of the leaders gave heed to the wrong spirit. There was, indeed, a cover-up after the fact. The PBS Special "The Mormons" got that part right, but neglected to mention that Utah was at that time occupied territory, and that the Church leaders were at that time fighting extradition for unjustified charges of treason. They had every reason to want to make the whole mess go away.

It is not fair to judge soldiers in wartime by the standards of peacetime. By the standards of wartime, Mountain Meadows was an error, but not a war crime.
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